I think by now it's no secret that I've been traveling along my spiritual journey for some time now, and it's led to some unexpected roads. Someday I will write more in detail about it and about the events that shaped every turn in the road so far, but for now I wanted to touch on the main thing that has led me along my journey thus far, and that is the wealth of rational, logical arguments for the Christian faith. Anyone that knows me knows that I can't stand abstract thought, I prefer my thinking to be based on concrete logic and firm, tangible facts. It is why I have zero aesthetic sense, wouldn't know the first thing about decorating a home, and cannot appreciate art or music beyond it's immediate sensory appeal.
So it comes as no surprise that it was Christian apologists such as Lee Strobel (a former atheist) and C.S. Lewis (a former agnostic) that made the case for me. I think what made their books all the more compelling was the fact that they themselves came from the same background of unbelief and skepticism that I did, wrestled with the same doubts and questions I did (and still do) and that they also preferred to go about faith using a rational approach. It opened my eyes.
Now, there's no question that I'm still rather new at this journey. There are still things I don't quite comprehend, and while I accept the fact that I will never have ALL the answers, that's not stopping me from thinking about the issues foremost on my mind and continuing to seek out answers. An important part of this journey is studying the Bible. Now, I don't know if the Bible is supposed to be literally true, but even if none of the events actually happened (and we know there's archaeological evidence for some of it) the fact remains that there's a lot of wisdom and truth to be obtained from it. Jesus himself illlustrated his teachings with parables.
Having said that, one of the issues I wrestle with is that of reconciling what the Bible says about homosexuality. On the surface, the anti-gay rhetoric that many Christians spout while referencing Scripture seems to go against every sensibility I have. I have gay and lesbian friends. I voted No on Prop 8. That whole "hate the sin, love the sinner" spiel never sat well with me, and I never for a moment believed that a loving God would condemn people based on something that they cannot change, something that's as inherent to them as skin color.
So, what to make of it? How to refute those that would use the Bible, the same book to which I'm trying to adhere my life, to make such bigoted arguments? Sure, there was the whole argument that if you think homosexuality is a sin because of the Bible, then you should also refrain from wearing clothing made of mixed materials, or going near a woman when she's on the rag, etc etc... but even those arguments, like the ones they were meant to rebuff, only scratched the surface.
Then John Shore, a writer whose blog I follow (despite his having called me a freak and a loser-- all in jest, mind you! :-P) summed my feelings up perfectly with this (putting sin into the perspective of temptation):
But I AM tempted to drink too much alcohol. I AM tempted to gossip. I AM tempted to cheat on my taxes. I AM tempted to have emotional affairs on my wife. EVERY kind of sin, in one way or another, at one time or another, really and truly tempts me--and pretty regularly, too. But I am never, ever tempted to be gay--and I'm sure I cannot be. So ... it... very, very obviously not the same thing at all. There's something categorically different from all the kinds of sins you (and everybody else) ever mentions, and the "sin" of homosexuality. Putting them in the same category is ... not rationally defensible. I'm not advocating any position whatsoever---but I'm not giving up plain, simple reason. I KNOW that doesn't please God.
And then I came across this site, which I found from a link through Anita, one of the commenters on his blog:
http://www.sisterfriends-together.org/the-bible-and-homosexuality/
The site as a whole is mainly oriented towards women, but there's a lot of nuggets in there that apply to anyone-- gay, straight, man, woman, child. And that link above? Was exactly what I was looking for. A detailed refutation of the "clobber passages" you hear fundamentalists (and even more moderate Christians) quote. I felt... uplifted by what I read. Between John and Anita I felt like the things I'd been feeling and just known intuitively all along had finally been ascribed words. Detailed words. Which, as everyone knows, suits Helly (aka Miss Verbose) quite well ;-)
Food for thought. Lots to chew on. What do you think?
Pretty sure you already know where I stand on these issues. I am not a religious person. I AM a homosexual. I find myself wondering more and more these days if I'm not even leaning a little more towards atheism than I am towards agnostic. It's not to say that I don't have beliefs, it's just that mine......differ from a lot of other peoples.
ReplyDeleteI dunno. There's lots of different viewpoints on the matters at hand. Simply stated though, I am and always WILL be a minority, with more people being INtolerant of the way I choose to live my life, regardless of what any bible says for any religion. The amount of hate and discrimination that still exists in this world always manages to surprise, even today.
I met a guy, once, quite a while ago now, who ALMOST had me interested in his faith, I think I told you about it. I never looked into though, because it was entirely fleeting with me. I don't put much stock into faith and religion when 99% of the time, people who DO preach it are the LEAST tolerant of gays. Of me.
Live and let live, I have always said. Different people are what make the world go round.
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ReplyDeleteI don't put much stock into faith and religion when 99% of the time, people who DO preach it are the LEAST tolerant of gays. Of me.I hope you will come to realize someday that those people preaching at you like that are those whose faith, I believe, is misguided or twisted. The same thing happened to Gandhi. He was one of the few who truly personified Christ's love, and yet he rejected Christianity because of the racism he suffered at the hands of so-called Christians. I think I commented to this effect in another post, but to paraphrase an author (the name escapes me) on the subject: "Racism has a long and awful history but its worst mark may have been the obscuring of Christ at a time when one of the world's greatest souls (Gandhi) was making his decision (about his faith)."
Different people are what make the world go round.Precisely, and it's worse than ironic that the whole crux of the Christian faith is acceptance of all different kinds of people, and yet those who put a public face on "Christianity" are the ones who cling most tenaciously to the "us vs. them" divide.
I don't blame you for feeling the way you do, but I hope you will eventually encounter people of true faith and see that "religion" is not necessarily the same thing as "faith". And that the people preaching intolerance that you've encountered thus far (either personally or via the media) are not necessarily the ones who speak for, or even exemplify, what true believers stand for. A few bad apples ruining a whole barrel, and all that...
I have met true believers, or maybe I should say believer. That person is my mother.
ReplyDeleteMy mother is a strongly practicing member of the Catholic church, but she doesn't let the Catholic church blind her to the fact that I am gay, this is the way I am, and should be accepted as such for being who I am.
It is true, though, that in my experience, I have mostly met only people who cling to intolerance and ignorance as a defense mechanism.
Honestly, I know far more accepting and loving people on the internet than I do in my real life--but I find myself distancing myself further and further from the people I know in person.
A few bad apples DO ruin the bunch, but not always for the reason you might think.
I can't believe it possible that a loving all-knowing god would create beings that he hated, simply for acting as they were made. I mean, it's not really fair to condemn someone to hell for being homosexual when those feelings are far beyond their control. I like to use the example to guys, "You know how you're attracted to women? You didn't choose it, you just feel that way. That's how homosexuality is."
ReplyDeleteThen there's the hatred I've seen people show against gays. Really.. if you're a true Christian you shouldn't be judging anybody. That's up to your god to do. Jesus hung out with prostitutes, he didn't damn them to hell and treat them like the plague. Many modern Christians need to re-read that part of Jesus' life.
Third, I have issues with those who think the bible is a static work that was put together one day by god and never changed. It just didn't happen that way. It was a collection of works.. there were a number of apocryphal works that were left out. Many popular Christian stories appear only in these apocryphal works. At some point, the books that make up the current bible were compiled and put into an official version. Some say it was bishops at the Council of Nicaea. For a work that was compiled, not written by the same person or even a homogeneous group of people, I think it's a poor base to say that every word is undisputable truth and should be followed to the letter. I can read the bible for its allegorical tales and positive morality, but once I get into an argument with someone who thinks it's infallible and perfect.. I have to walk away.
My point.. the bible is a guide, a signpost where to start, but it doesn't have the answers to everything and it's not completely correct.
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ReplyDeleteYou know how you're attracted to women? You didn't choose it, you just feel that way. Exactly! The comment I lifted from John Shore's blog was on the heels of a conversation exactly like that. I would never be attracted to someone of the opposite sex because I'm just not... wired that way. Therefore, I don't see how same-sex attractions (and subsequently, relationships) qualify as a "sin" when it's something beyond your control, as opposed to a temptation (like drugs, lying, or cheating) anyone could succumb to, because they are human.
True Christians would not only refrain from judging, but would also treat everyone with the love and compassion they should be afforded-- for the simple fact that they are fellow human beings. Again, it's sad that so many so-called Christians are giving the true believers a bad name because of their bigotry and hatred.
the bible is a guide, a signpost where to start, but it doesn't have the answers to everything and it's not completely correctI'm not sure I agree with this. Literal interpretations aside (i.e. I'm not arguing whether or not any of those stories are literally true), if you read the Bible in its proper context, the guidelines and wisdom in it are timeless. The observations apply today as much as they did back then. For instance-- today we no longer worship actual physical idols, but we do worship the idols of money, fame and power.
I don't know if you (or anyone else reading this) followed the link to the Sister Friends website and read the refutations in their entirety (it's quite a read!) but their point basically boils down to a matter of context. Historical, cultural, linguistic... put in proper perspective, there's a lot of truth to be gleaned from the Bible and its stories.
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ReplyDeleteI am happy that you are one of the (what I imagine is a) minority of folks whose parents didn't shun you because of who you are. And it's even worse when such people invoke the name of and claim to follow Jesus, the most loving, nonjudgmental and compassionate person to ever walk the earth, to validate their fear and bigotry. I can't think of anything more hypocritical.
A few bad apples DO ruin the bunch, but not always for the reason you might think.I'm a little mystified and intrigued (or else something obvious is flying way over my head)... can you /elaborate/hit me with the "obvious stick"? ;-)
I think John Shore is a genius.
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ReplyDeleteOh, he's smart alright... a real smart aleck ;-P